The official website of the Pittsburgh Pirates with the most up-to-date information on scores, schedule, stats, tickets, and team news. The Dodgers seem to be in this position every year. More like they tried to retool. The team wanted to dump his contract as he is still owed over $4 million, and he was better off getting paid by a contender. I remember that Cutch was rated very highly,and Marte was more in the middle of the ratings. MLB rumors: Shohei Ohtani, Atlanta Braves, Pittsburgh Pirates Losing Dustin May earlier this year has definitely made starting pitching a bigger priority. These four pitchers are Rich Hill, David Bednar, Mitch Keller . He has a lot of value because of this. In summation, Vogey is very fat, slow, ambushes post game spreads and is virtually useless. 2023 Pittsburgh Pirates Transactions | ESPN Of course, the Bucs top potential trade candidates would be mid-rotation starterMitch Keller and All-Star closerDavid Bednar. If he doesnt want to extend then he has 1 more season left. His 23.3% strikeout rate is fairly typical, while he has above-average control and a quality 51.5% grounder percentage. The lack of patience comment is absurd. Neither would have been back next season, so trading for prospects is what you do. Outside of the current Rays and the Moneyball As, thats about as good as small market teams can do. The Pirates are a year behind the Reds. Theyve gone cold of late and fallen out of the mix, setting the stage for at least a moderate sell-off. Thats how you screw up your future. He wont be great, but he will eat some innings and save the bullpen, and best of all he probably wont cost much. I think this group makes the playoffs several times in the next 5 or 6 years as long as there are coaching changes this offseason. I dont understand what your issue is? The Pirates were still buying as recent as 2018. SD-Nobody would want him because his real talent is working with young pitchers and a trade now would not give him enough time to get acquainted with a new pitching staff. He is one player who I would take anything in return. Only time he struggled was in June, and that was just four innings and before he was placed on the IL for a week and a half. Bednar who has become a fan favorite due to his local roots put together a first half that earned him . Holderman has a 0.2 WAR since the trade compared with Vogeys 0.8. Holderman has already done 10x better than Clay Holmes ever did for the Pirates. Thus, they are gearing up to being sellers, and David Bednar has been discussed in the rumor mill. He did in the home stretch of last season, but has a .707 OPS. The script on Pittsburgh Pirates closer David Bednar has really flipped in the last few weeks. Also, consider the fact Vogelbach has a negative WAR this season. If you remember, the same off-season they traded both Cole and McCutchen, they acquired Corey Dickerson, who was coming off an all-star season and had two more years of control remaining. The Pirates are just flipped, the position players are arriving this year and the pitchers look like theyre on schedule to arrive next season (Skenes, Jones, Ashcraft, and Solometo). You think theyve been terrible. Corn-I know very little about the young players.Dont know much about the French I took,dont know what a slide rule is for. Pittsburgh Pirates Rumors & News - Chat Sports Not much to add these days, my friend but hey, this is the most wonderful time of year for Pirates fans. The Dodgers and Rays were the best ones off the top of my head.I do not doubt that at least half the teams have lost what the Pirates have lost. MLB Rumors: Cardinals extension nightmare, Verdugo trade, Pirates - MSN Thats a good start, but the jury is still out on the rest. But the . Kid, youre right, of course. 2023 Minute Media - All Rights Reserved. The official website of the Pittsburgh Pirates with the most up-to-date information on scores, schedule, stats, tickets, and team news. Holderman is nothing special. The veteran lefty is a great clubhouse presence and has pitched well in the postseason during his career. Pirates' Angel Perdomo Suspended 3 Games for Throwing at Padres' Manny You basically got your wish from 2013-2018, they competed for the division title in 4 out of 6 years. He's emerged as the club's closer in that time, notching 19 saves here in 2022. Sell anyone you get fair value for. Termarr Johnson Pushing for a Promotion . Pittsburgh Pirates News, Rumors, and Community - Pirates Prospects Cora needs as many pitchers as he can get his hands on. Hes got a 138 wRC+ against lefties and it looks to be supported by the peripheral numbers. @mlb1225: Not saying Vogelbach is anything great, but neither is Holderman. Pirates management isnt stupid compared to other teams. Not great, not bad, just solid. Its a sellers market. I do think that Santana was a plus but in the end another Rich Hill type starter would have given them more depth that they obviously do not have now. The Pirates need starting pitching and I think that Skenes will be a star if physically able.BC will get another scrap heap starter who pitches reasonably well but this is where Nutting needs to bite the bullet and sign someone like Sonny Gray. It was widely expected going into the season that the pirates would be dealing one year vet acquisitions at the deadline if they werent in contention. They were financially solvent in 2009 or 2010 for the first time in two decades (cant remember the exact year and too lazy to look it up lol). Pirates Rumors Pirates Outright Wil Crowe By Anthony Franco | July 25, 2023 at 6:45pm CDT The Pirates announced a few transactions before tonight's matchup with the Padres. So listening on both All-Stars, including also closer David Bednar. Pirates are also willing to listen to trade offers on All-Star starter Mitch Keller. The Pirates have received some trade interest in starter Rich Hill and setup man Colin Holderman, tweets Jon Heyman of the New York Post. Hill, see ya. Could be a throw in with hill too. The Pirates are getting fringe free agents partly because no one wants to play for a continually losing team,It was part of the reason why Machado was hesitant to sign with San Diego.I think it part of the reason why Keller may not be receptive here to sign an extended offer. Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette spoke with Hedges yesterday about the possibility of a trade and his shift toward a mentor role for the younger Davis and Rodriguez. The Pirates have always had to deal with many issues specific to theyre being in a smaller market. Even the Rays will rebuild. Bednar is controlled through 2027 and has developed into one of the best closers in baseball. The Pirates lost Brubaker and Velasquez,two guys with mediocre at best success in ML starting pitching. Thats why the previous management group was fired, they failed to maintain an adequate farm system and werent winning enough at the MLB level. You are another poster who does not like to be called out on facts. I wonder if Reynolds is regretting signing that extension already? Yes, Pirates fans are jaded and cynical. So nowhere near the disaster uninformed fans seem to think it is. The return will need to be a major haul and the Dodgers have the pieces to make it work. Theyve made the playoffs more than 8 other franchises in this time frame (some of them large market teams). Yeah, he is getting a spot start every once in awhile but Id say Davis being in RF and looking like the real deal has limited his opportunities. You simply move one of them to another position like theyre doing. That said, relievers can be volatile and the Pirates are unlikely to compete next year. I also think that both have been adversely affected by their back tightness. Thats valuable production, and Holdermans affordability only adds to the appeal. Last time they did a full scale rebuild it was successful, maintaining the farm system is where the previous group failed. You seem to alternately talk past many of our comments while also making assumptions on what we are looking for I think the Phillies and Dodgers are also looking for right handed bats. PDF BUNCEFIELD MAJOR INCIDENT INVESTIGATION - Institution of Chemical Engineers The content on this site is for entertainment and educational purposes only. Load up the farm for the rest of the decade. Look at how Kansas City has all but ruined MJ Melendez with the same tactic. Reports are they wanted him as a free agent. Teams are asking about a catcher that cant hit even close to the Mendoza line? Santana, who is a on a one-year, $6.725 million deal, will serve as a rental for a Brewers team in need of a first baseman. I get those guys are clubhouse leaders, and I agree thats valuable, but only to a certain degree. MLB Rumors: Cardinals roadblock, Pirates waiting game, Verlander out? - MSN Batter-It is easy to cap on a 177 hitter but Hedges has been a real help with the pitching staff.The Pirates were smart in getting Cutch,Hill,and Hedges to help with the young players.That is the reason why they will keep Hedges,to help Endy and perhaps Davis,unless someone offers them a reasonably good young player for him. Here, his failures are magnified as being a part of an ultra anemic offense that seemingly has few answers game in and game out. Keller is having a career year and still has two years of team control. I dont know what else to tell you, its not the Pirates fault entirely that its a struggle to win. And Oakland? The Pittsburgh Pirates cemented themselves as sellers when they traded veteran infielder Carlos Santana to the Milwaukee Brewers. MLB Rumors (Photo by Joe Sargent/Getty Images). Thing is with Coras bullpen management and having to do two bullpen games every time through the rotation, they really dont have the roster space for a mopup guy. There are rumors that he may end up in a reunion with his former Los Angeles Dodgers teammates, where he played for four seasons. Among DHs with 200+ plate appearances this year, Vogey doesnt crack the top 20 in OPS, wOBA, wRC+, isolated slugging, or slugging. Pirates are getting a lot of hits on Hill, Bednar, Keller and Holderman. Thats why Huntington and co. were fired after the season. This is a bog standard approach for teams in the type of position the pirates are currently in. If it remained a question whether the Pittsburgh Pirates would be buyers or sellers ahead of the Aug. 1 trade deadline, general manager Ben Cherington provided an answer Thursday afternoon. Holderman, bendar and Keller should not be on the trading block. And because the player development is so horrible, injuries such as the one that sidelined Cruz, theres no one capable of making up for his loss Aside from the 4 innings he pitched in June, he has an ERA and FIP below 3.00. The Pittsburgh Pirates are reportedly planning on listening to offers for All-Star closer David Bednar ahead of the MLB trade deadline on Aug. 1, according to the New York Post's Jon Heyman . That may also be true of star closer David Bednar, whom Heyman floats as a possible trade candidate. And if Hedges is traded, I see them bringing Delay back so Davis can continue honing his skills in right field, Its becoming clear that they are looking to get the #1 draft pick in 2024 and only losing the majority of the remaining games can do just that The Pirates consistently spend more than both of those franchises on both the MLB team and in scouting/development, and have had decent results. Given this report by Heyman, it is fair to assume that the Pirates are not done making moves. Theyve been rebuilding since 2020. Hes struck out two more times against Nola so far; so my question is why Shelton would bat Reynolds further down in the order or sit him in favor of Palacios? Bryan Reynolds has emerged as one of the few bright spots on the Pittsburgh Pirates over the past couple of years. If the Pirates were rebuilding in 2018, then instead of acquiring an all-star outfielder, and two major league pitchers, they would have traded guys like Josh Harrison, Jordy Mercer, and Francisco Cervelli, as all three whom were on the last (or next to last) guarenteed year of their deals, and probably would have traded Gregory Polanco given his strong 2018, as well as Starling Marte. The Pittsburgh Pirates cemented themselves as sellers when they traded veteran infielder Carlos Santana to the Milwaukee Brewers. The Pirates were buyers at the deadline in 2018, and then projected to compete for the postseason in 2019 before the wheels fell off that year. And although theyve faded a bit, watch the Dbacks He was probably looking forward to hitting the market as a under 800 ops 31 year old left fielder. If you take the previous month into account, he is still one you consider as a backend 5/6th guy on many teams that wouldnt take much to get. But, the league had that dumb one game Wild Card format and they ran into the best pitcher in baseball (Jake Arrieta). A long awaited dream turned into the reality of the annual failure to which we have come to expect under this management, Another base running blunder by Suwinski for allowing himself to be doubled up on a shallow fly ball Hes the only consistent starter that they currently have and likely will have for the next year or two. Starting pitching is tough to find and very valuable. Keller has been one of the best pitchers in the National League compiling an ERA of 3.97 in 133.2 innings of work while striking out 145 batters. Reynolds could bring back a huge return to Pittsburgh if the team decided to make a deal. Get viral MLB graphics, memes, rumors and trending news delivered right to your inbox with the Clutch Newsletter. Pillow-Slider just likes to get his digs in. Well, even Noah Syndergaard got a change-of-scenery trade. I just love to tell the hard truth and piss off pirates fans. Its not overwhelming production, but teams have valued Hills general stability at the back of a staff and veteran clubhouse presence. The Pittsburgh Pirates traded first baseman Carlos Santana to the Milwaukee Brewers on Thursday afternoon, and rumors are swirling that veteran pitcher Rich Hill may be next amid their trade deadline sell-off. Pirates are getting hits on defensive catcher Austin Hedges in addition to Hill, Holderman, Bednar and Keller. The Orioles and DBacks arent small market teams. MLB Rumors: Even the Pittsburgh Pirates get lucky The Pittsburgh Pirates were once 20-8, don't forget that. Well see. The Jays were wanting to get rid of Osuna because of his off-field issues without just giving him up for free. Santana and Hill are both on expiring contracts and were never viewed as permanent solutions. Youre trying to say Jesus Christ cant hit a curveball? All betting content is intended for an audience ages 21+. Not counting his age of course. Just ship the ageless wonder back to Boston, where he belongs. Also, numbers are numbers. Id say that on the contrary, longtime Pittsburgh fans are some of the most knowledgeable fans. Teams are interested in rich hill tells you how good a sellers market this is. I dont know about you, but Ill gladly take Holderman 10x out of 10 over Vogelbach, as fun as Vogelbach was to watch with the Pirates. Thats the DC metro area and Phoenix, two of the largest metropolitan areas in the country and they have massive TV deals. I assume if the Pirates were listening on Bendar or Holderman, their starting asking price would be what the Yankees got for Aroldis Champan in 2016, if not more considering Chapman was a rental and both Bednar and Holderman arent even in arbitration yet. But I do commend the work hes done with the pitching staff, and all the pitchers love him. He is healthy and recently added a splitter. Jordan Hicks, St. Louis Cardinals (Photo by Katelyn Mulcahy/Getty Images), PITTSBURGH, PA JULY 2: Austin Hedges #18 of the Pittsburgh Pirates looks on during the game against the Milwaukee Brewers at PNC Park on July 2, 2023 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Having a top 3 farm system (#1 on Fangraphs) for the first time in decades is a good start, the previous group never had a farm system this good. Really? The Pittsburgh native . You just admitted youre simply ignoring data that contradicts your points. The teams that AJ and Martin were on were less than a decade ago. Sometimes he has funny ones,but I have to believe that they are all in jest. You dont get to set aside Holdermans struggles and injuries and declare him the better player. Holderman, makes no sense to trade him now since his current value is lower than what it can be given some recent struggles. dark. #Dbacks are reportedly heavily in on David Bednar according to Gambo. I get it, you want them to be the Moneyball As or the Rays, thats what theyre trying to do. Pittsburgh is hoarding prospects, as they should, with the hopes of one day becoming a competitive baseball team. Which should include management and coaches Rodriguez will mostly catch as he is the superior defensive catcher, but Daviss bat plays in RF, at 1B, and at DH. Heyman reported earlier this week the Pirates were willing to consider offers on those players. I still stand by 3 starts in the second half is not enough to judge. Earlier in the day on Thursday the trade deadline dominoes began to fall for the Pittsburgh Pirates. Vogelbach and Monaoh on a seesaw would be a sight. It was also reported that the Diamondbacks are "heavily in" on Bednar. Shortly after Santana was traded, MLB Network's Jon Heyman reported that the Bucs are also garnering trade interest in four pitchers. Gee I wonder what team has interest in him. By Nicholas Caporoso | Nov 29, 2022 The Pittsburgh Pirates need to upgrade their starting rotation. Terrible comp. Rebuilding is more of a complete teardown. Moving Hedges makes sense for a Pirates club with two of the sports top catching prospects, Henry Davis and Endy Rodriguez, both ready for a legitimate audition in the Majors. by Kristen Wong MLB Rumors: Pirates trade chatter includes Rich Hill, Carlos Santana, Austin Hedges, and others It's looking like another rebuilding year for the. Solometo 6 games 5 innings per start I hope we dont go after any high-end rentals after seeing what that Angels gave up for Giolito. Sure, the Pirates could get a lot for him, but theyd also struggle to replace him. Rich Hill would help settle down the Dodgers rotation. His most recent starts (ie: 2nd half) are the most critical in judging what direction his performance is going. The content on this site is for entertainment and educational purposes only. Rich Hill could be the next asset on the move according to Robert Murray of Fansided, as the Pirates have fallen far out of their former top position in May. You can read more about that trade here. MLB Trade Rumors: Pirates Seek Juan Soto-Like Package for Bryan mlb1225, Buc and Dream all report that there are some real studs coming up, especially pitchers. Watch the Orioles play and realize the great majority of their players came up through the minors. Mendoza, they werent going to rush a starting pitcher to the MLB from AA just because they had a ton of injuries. Would seem like a pretty low probability to . theyve been stocking the farm system since 2015 and they arent any better now as a result Give it a rest. The rest of the team was playing so far over their heads, their play was reaching the stratosphere. Ashcraft: ERA 3.76 in A+, 0.00 in AA in 5 starts at age 23. Pittsburgh Pirates rumors: Bryan Reynolds is "unlikely" to be traded in 2022. In addition, Pirates manager Derek Shelton is . At this point, Hedges would register as a decent backup catcher, as hes sound defensively at the very least. The Pirates have released outfielder Travis Swaggerty, according to his transactions tracker at MLB.com. But since then, Ben Cherington has failed to put a winning product on the field, and . They dont just hit well for a catcher, they just hit well in general. Santana was on a one-year, $6.725 million deal with the Pirates at the age of 37. This team started red-hot, a shocking 20-8 in fact, but has . Only rate statistics he is 20th or better in is OBP and walk rate. Yes, really. The Minnesota Twins were recently in the rumors for looking into Kansas City Royal outfielder Michael A. Taylor. Since the 80s, this continues to be a franchise is constant rebuild with a previous few bright periods along the way. July 28: Catcher Austin Hedges has also drawn trade interest, Heyman tweets. Yes, and Id agree again. And Im tired of hearing Shelton defend Andy Haines, The Bucs are back to their normal form, Keller gives up a two run homer and the Bucs bats have struck out 4 times in their first 6 ABs, Holderman is this years clay Holmes.. someone will trade for him and he will become a dominant reliever while the pirates will give him away for 2 non factor prospects. The only way you could possibly do that is to ignore both May and June, which is a total of 121 and 56.3% of his plate appearances this season. Dont forget to include the recently departed Santana among that group. Pittsburgh Penguins rumors, news and videos from the best sources on the web. Holmes did nothing in Pitt. 4 runs in 5 innings isnt goodhate to tell you. He was shrewd enough to give Andujar a decent salary which is what has kept him in the system.That tells me that he has not yet given up on a player with a 990 OPS in AAA.
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